Posted: November 9th, 2009 | Author: Moonstar Silverwolf | Filed under: Islam | Tags: debate, Fort Hood, Ft. Hood, Islam, Muslim, Terrorism | View Comments
Another installment of what has been going on recently outside of this blog. In my debate with the guy who seems to think all Muslims are terrorists, we successfully argued ourselves into circles. I will admit, he is a good debater and did cause me to stumble on some of the US Constitution questions and I will admit I do not know the document as well as I should. His logic related to why I was Anti-American because I dissent was not logical at all and all boiled down to the point where, I obviously have to be anti-American because I support the “enemy” which is Islam, yet as a dissident, I cannot challenge this assertion. This logic makes no sense because as a dissident, I can question everything, so to tell me that such and such is given does not prove I am such and such. I believe that as an American it is my duty to question my government’s actions, motives & definitions and to tell me I cannot is just stupid.
While I did not succeed at changing his mind about Islam, and I realized I wasn’t going to be able to, I decided to end with the following and I will not go back to respond. I’m sure I will be called more names, and I take pride in being called them. In fact, I posted some of them publicly for everyone to see. Names do not change the fact that I will never stop challenging my government & the people who are elected to be the government.
The first part of my response is in relation to Gaza, where he is a supporter of the actions of Israel, so I left him a little feed back regarding that. The last half is my final comment in which I leave him with some videos to watch. I do not expect him to watch them or even have them change his mind, but at least I can say I tried to show him that the “terrorists” are not who he says they are. Islam is a peaceful loving religion with some wonderful people within it. The media tends to focus on the extreme right wing of the faith – whom everyone I know either hates or even goes so far as to say they are not Muslim.
So, without further talking, here is what I left him with:
I’m going to respond with two final posts. As I’ve been working, I have come to the understanding that I will not succeed at my goal with you, which was only to open your eyes to the idea that your ideas of Islam are based on a false ideal that you have seen either in the media, on the web or even in the battle field. I will continue to attest to the loving & peacefulness that comes from those who practice what is truly Islam. The Islam you fear is not the Islam of the world, but a right wing fringe group of people who fail to realize what Islam really is.
There is one point I want to make regarding your final comments: Wikipedia is not a source you can trust. As an academic, I do not accept it as a primary source from my students – it is edited by users. While most of it can be used as a good source of information, there are flaws. One of them being that the Gaza ceasefire ended not on Dec. 18th, but on November 5th when Israeli tanks entered Gaza in a raid that killed 6 Hamas militants, injuring four Israeli soldiers.
Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/05/israelandthepalestinians
In addition, if you are truly wanting to know your facts, I suggest you take a look at the most recent report of the events surrounding “Operation Cast Lead” known as the Goldstone Report, written by a Zionist Jew hired by the UN to investigate both Hamas and Israel for war crimes. Within it, it condemns both Hamas and Israel, though I will be honest with you, it is much more critical of Israel, which is why the US House has said President Obama should be in opposition to it. For more information, you can go here: http://www.goldstonereport.org/
Finally, I will leave you with two videos on youtube. The first is a CNN discussion on AC 360 featuring Glenn Beck, A Pew Research Poll & two Muslim authors. While I do not agree completely with Glenn Beck and I do find his show on TV to be more about theatrics than real substance, he would be considered a liberal compared to your stance on Muslims. The two Muslim authors provide you with a Muslim voice to it as well. Take from it what you will. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc9Ig5nqdxo
And finally, this is a video produced by MAS Media Foundation in which they asked 2,000 American Muslims what they wish to say to the rest of the world. These, you say, are terrorists. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4ks_yRJsHE
I will continue to debate you on this website, I’m sure. And with that, I will take my “Anti-American, Terrorist Loving” Actor Duck butt to bigger and better things – waking up the world from their slumber as their government continues it’s wrong ways. Until we cross again, salam.
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Here is his response:
“And there you have it folks, a stereo typical jew-hating muslim. Exit, stage WAY left. What you have here is proof positive of the evils of Islam and its followers. You also have proof positive that we badly need reform and most importantly, BALANCE, in the halls of academe. This idiot is typical of the people who are poisoning the minds of young adults at once-great colleges and universities across the nation.
Stick your salam where the sun doesn’t shine, terrorist.”
So, not only am I a Jew hater, I’m a Muslim, I am showing exactly the evils of Islam & why we need to reform the schools. Oh yeah, I’m a terrorist as well. The sad thing is I feel sorry for this guy, a little bit, because despite everything he still has not changed any of his opinions. He can watch the videos I sent (though I doubt he watched them) and still type these words. This is why I am not responding to him anymore and I’m sure he will get pissed off because of it, but when you seriously hate something that much – you need some help and I cannot offer it to him since I am the “enemy”.
Posted: November 9th, 2009 | Author: Moonstar Silverwolf | Filed under: United States | Tags: American, dissent, dissident, fear, Fort Hood, Freedom, Ft. Hood, hatred, Islam, racism, Terrorism, US | View Comments
The events of Fort Hood and the sudden rise to the surface Islamophobics has brought me to the surface as well. The past few days I did not blog because I was spending some of my blogging time on a local newspaper website shutting down people who want to believe Islam is the root of evil and therefore terrorism. Some of them wanted to debate the Qur’an with me, selecting individual passages out that “prove” Islam is a violent religion. All of their sources and quotes come straight from a selection of Anti-Islam websites that I have already seen before. It was not worth my time to explain to them why they were incorrect so I ignored the passage quoting despite their repeated insistence. After running them into circles where the only argument they seemed to be able to have is those passages and the idea that Muslims are killing all over the world, despite the fact that they do not acknowledge their own flaws within the argument, so it started to become a pointless debate.
So, of course, me being a troublemaker (I really should stop doing this.. but it’s so much fun..lol ) I took some of my old posts, edited them slightly and posted them on the site. One of the ones I wrote back on September 11th of this year and that just pissed him off and he became Rep. Joe Wilson typing “YOU LIE!” so I can tell I got under his sleeve a little. It really pissed him off that I didn’t allow free posting on my blog and so he proceeded to call me a coward and then took his comments and posted his own blog with the following introduction:
ThespianDuckie, a new anti-American screen name here on these pages has posted his vile treasonous venom here: http://link to where my blog was…
I strongly suspect this guy is a muslim terrorist, or at the very least, a muslim who sympathizes with the terrorists. His arguments, like we are to blame for 9/11, are utterly ridiculous and come straight from the AQ playbook.
Like a typical gutless anti-American coward, he has turned screening on for his blog. What follows is my response to his treason — because I doubt very seriously that he will allow it to be posted.
I ended up taking his posting and breaking it apart piece by piece. This guy thinks the Patriot Act is a good thing & it is “better them than us” in reference to killing Taliban/Afghani people.
He ended his rant responding to my statement: “Do not place a higher value on one US Citizen compared to an Iraqi or Afghanistan citizen.” With the following:
What kind of anti-American piece of crap are you? YOU D@MN WELL BETTER BELIEVE AN AMERICAN LIFE IS WORTH MORE THAN ANY CITIZEN OF ANY OTHER COUNTRY. YOU be a citizen of the world, traitor, *I* am an AMERICAN.
This is a typical “I’m an American, I’m better than everyone” mentality and it needs to end. I’m glad we have success, I’m glad we have freedom and I’m glad we want to share it with the world, but to say the American life is worth more than any other person on this world is the whole reason we are in this mess. A long time ago, the United States was the leader in freedom & innovative thought. Now, we are the leader in corruption of wealth, breaking of treaties and violations of laws. Since 9/11, we have broken numerous international laws, blocked Israel from facing war crimes, invaded sovereign nations and are threatening another. We sit and complain about our health care being too expensive and then watch as half of our tax dollars go to fund wars that are only increasing the chance of terrorism not stopping them.
I left him a comment on his blog post after all of that stating that I did post his comments, including a response that said the reason I do not let them post automatically is because I do not trust a radical like him to post something without it causing harm to people I support. If it was not a statement like that, it would be posted with a response from me.
I also said the following:
I am an American who questions the government – a dissident. If this makes me worthy of the names you call, so be it. I still love my country, whether you agree with me or not. In addition, my faith has nothing to do with my stance. I have not indicated whether I am Christian, Muslim, Jewish or Atheist. You can put me into any group you wish, it doesn’t change the fact that as an American Citizen, it is my duty to question everything my government does in my name.
If this makes me hated, so be it. But at least I know I have done something to end the illegal occupation of nations in my name, the murder of innocent women, men and children. At least I have spoken up to end the suffering of people.
I do not support the wars, the people who are fighting in them and the people who are hired to protect them. I do not wish harm on our soldiers and demand that we bring them home.
Posted: November 6th, 2009 | Author: Moonstar Silverwolf | Filed under: Islam | Tags: alabama, Fort Hood, Ft. Hood, hatred, Ignorance, Islam, Muslim, racism | View Comments
I do not plan to say much about the recent shooting at Ft. Hood, but I do want to discuss the fact that the media and thus in turn all of the idiots are going to be focusing on the fact that he has an Arabic name and that he is Muslim. I have been spending the last couple hours surfing around on my state’s newspaper’s online postings to fight against the hatred and obvious ignorance of those who decide that his faith is obviously why he was a murderer and therefore this is a terrorist act.
I am pleased to say that I am not alone in trying to get rid of the ignorance that I am finding. However, I feel it is important to point out some of what we are up against and why we need to ask our media, our elected officials and most of all, our friends to bring to light what kind of hatred they are spreading.
Each of these comments are from Alabama online versions of newspapers from across the state:
From a 38 year old Male in Wetumpta, AL:
“Once again a Muslim is to blame for mass killings. Why dont this religion go back acros the pond. There is nothing good to say about Muslims, they should all be executed like they do everyone else!”
From a white male in Birmingham AL:
“This is a religious war. I have said that from the beginning and no one agrees with me. It is us against Islam, treat all Islamists the same, deport them and/or imprison them, they are all cut from the same cloth, never mind the moderate, radical BS, just do it.”
Unknown from Pleasant Grove, AL:
“anther reason we don’t need muslims in the military..”
Unknown from Unknown location, AL:
“Get all muslims out of our military! They are unable to defend this country against other muslims.”
I hope to God that no one does anything stupid against Muslims in your local community. Work hard to combat this, speak the truth and work to open the light to others.
My thoughts and prayers are with all who are involved at the base and will end with the questions I am posting on many of these sites:
All religions have their nuts, to focus on the fact that he is Muslim is just stupid.
What religion was Seung-Hui Cho who shot and killed people at V-Tech?
What religion was Steven Kazmierczak who shot and killed people at N. Illinois?
What religion was Timothy McVey who blew up the OK City Building?
Do you know?
And does it matter in these shootings?
This is a man who was obviously troubled, unstable, but the fact that you are focused on his faith shows how ignorant you are.
Other things that can be asked:
What religion are abortion clinic bombers?
What religion were the Columbine shooters?
What religion were those arrested for organ harvesting?
With love & peace, stay safe.